You're Agent Brighton Rat 007.
Your controller is codenamed Green Bigot.
Your top secret mission: infiltrate the Reds' talking shop, aka the Unity Antifascist Forum, take screenshots of anything interesting, and bring them back to Green Bigot HQ at 7 Carlin Road, Nantyglo, Gwent, NP23 4UL.
This post will self destruct in 10 seconds.
Green Arrow (aka Paul Morris)
Showing posts with label Brighton Rock. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Brighton Rock. Show all posts
5 August 2008
8 July 2008
So goodbye, Roger Robertson
You won't last long in the political cesspit that is the BNP unless you get one thing right in your head straight away: you don't challenge Nick Griffin, understand?
'Cos if you do all kinds of nasty things are going to start happening to you - like your name will be trashed, your achievements will be belittled, Nick will forget every nice thing he ever said about you, and it won't matter a damn if you once chaired a BNP conference.
You'll be a gonner and no mistake.
So farewell to Roger Roberston, chief backer of Cllr Colin Auty's failed bid to challenge Nick Griffin for the leadership of the family business, found guilty of "subversion" by a BNP kangaroo court.
Now if Roger Robertson is guilty of subversion for backing Auty's half-baked challenge why is bottom-drawer election pundit and editor of BNP lie sheet Freedom Martin Wingfield cooing at Councillor Colin ("They don't see me as a Nick Griffin type") Auty on his blog - the one where Wingfield explains away the party's rotten election showings as the BNP's "quiet revolution"?
Right out of nowhere Wingfield starts a post by sending Colin a nice message that he loves the Composing Councillor's awful song Savile Town so much that he settled down one night and played it three or four times. Mind you, he was drinking wine at the time, so that probably explains it. Maybe the wine made Wingfield come over all gooey-eyed and forget all about Auty's treason in daring to oppose his mate Griffin, because he added:
Colin Auty is a brilliant nationalist musician and, as someone else in the business of winning people over to our cause, I know just what a potent message there is in his songs. Great stuff Colin, well done.
Aw, Colin, you're my bestest mate in all the world, you are.
So what's going on here? Auty's mate Robertson gets expelled for subversion amid the usual hyena cackling of the Griffin groupies but the main man himself is all right?
It smells fishier than Lowestoft quay.
Unless Wingfield is putting himself up for the bullet (unlikely) we reckon the word's gone out from on high to pull Colin back into the fold before he does some real damage, and Wingfield's doing his insincere bit.
It's called Divide and Rule. Last year Griffin pulled the same stunt after Christian Jackson's hamstrung leadership bid went down to rigged defeat, expelling main backer Mike Easter but leaving Jackson well alone.
The signal is easy to read - Nick daren't pick off the name who opposes him, so he'll go for the backroom boys, sending the message loud and clear to the entire BNP membership that if any one of them gets wonky ideas like Democracy into his head, Nick's going to stick that head on a pike.
It's the coward's way of doing business, and it's the only way Nick Griffin knows.
Out on the Nazi Stormfront the Griffin pack are in full cry over Robertson's expulsion, and it's very noticeable that none of the Regular Griffinite Suspects has a bad word to say about Councillor Colin - just like they were all singing from the same hymn-sheet. Kick Robertson while he's down is the order of the day - "kicking while he's down" being something most of the cowardly cabal have had a lot of practice at over the years.
One of them is possible Searchlight/State plant, lesbian dating site regular and dodger of flying soft drinks Sid Williamson, the moron who squealed that the police failed to protect him from "the poofters" when the SuperChav bravely showed up at Brighton Pride expecting to hurl insults from behind a couple of rows of Sussex's Finest - the same moron who encouraged his boys to confront Antifa at a BPP conference (read: drinking session) then left his boys in the lurch and had it away on his toes when Antifa stood their ground.
Also showing up is the Green Bigot, coward extraordinaire and lumpen liar - the BNP's least active member and loudest mouth, who turns up to accuse somebody showing support for Roger Robertson of being an infiltrator.
The Bigot, who visitors will remember only joined the BNP just before Christmas, has a long history of accusing nationalist veterans of being infiltrators and Reds, and prefers to do his campaigning from behind the anonimity of a keyboard, from where he presents himself as a man with a nationalist past (lies) and who is In The Know (more lies) - which is much safer than showing your face on the streets, eh, Bigot?
If a man (even one as secretive as the Bigot) is known by his friends, then who better to judge him by than his mate, fellow armchair nationalist and paranoid sniffer out of Reds, the equally useless and cowardly Brighton Rat?
A quick look at the Bigot's barely used forum tonight turned up a thread started by the Rat, 10 BNP activists hurt in clash with police. The Rat feverishly posted an extract, "At least ten people, including a journalist and BNP activists, were injured in clashes between the law enforcers and BNP activists", and linked to the story, which in his excitement he hadn't read.
There's real BNP brains for you.
The story was actually about the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, which the Rat only belatedly discovered.
Being as stupid as they come (even in the BNP), though, the Rat smelled - a rat. "When I search for news on the BNP I get loads about the Bangladeshis boys and BNP Paribas. I think it's a conspiracy to confuse us and weaken the BNP 'brand'."
Well there you are. Of course. Naturally.
And since the Bangladesh Nationalist Party and BNP Paribas both pre-date the British National Party by many years it's quite obvious that both were set up to deliberately confuse the would-be members of a would-be BNP should a party of that name ever come into existence.
Whew! What evil machinations are worked against the BNP! Even before the party ever set up shop "the conspiracy" was ready and waiting to whack it to the tiny mind of the Brighton Rat.
So, judging a man by his mates, we judge the Green Bigot to be terminally stupid.
But that's no worse than how Nick Griffin and his mates judge the BNP membership, who can be made to believe that a completely legal leadership challenge is somehow "subversive" and that anybody involved in it is "vermin", "thieves", "liars" and "cheats".
Yup, it takes a special kind of stupidity to join today's BNP. Ask the Bigot and the Rat.
'Cos if you do all kinds of nasty things are going to start happening to you - like your name will be trashed, your achievements will be belittled, Nick will forget every nice thing he ever said about you, and it won't matter a damn if you once chaired a BNP conference.
You'll be a gonner and no mistake.
So farewell to Roger Roberston, chief backer of Cllr Colin Auty's failed bid to challenge Nick Griffin for the leadership of the family business, found guilty of "subversion" by a BNP kangaroo court.
Now if Roger Robertson is guilty of subversion for backing Auty's half-baked challenge why is bottom-drawer election pundit and editor of BNP lie sheet Freedom Martin Wingfield cooing at Councillor Colin ("They don't see me as a Nick Griffin type") Auty on his blog - the one where Wingfield explains away the party's rotten election showings as the BNP's "quiet revolution"?
Right out of nowhere Wingfield starts a post by sending Colin a nice message that he loves the Composing Councillor's awful song Savile Town so much that he settled down one night and played it three or four times. Mind you, he was drinking wine at the time, so that probably explains it. Maybe the wine made Wingfield come over all gooey-eyed and forget all about Auty's treason in daring to oppose his mate Griffin, because he added:
Colin Auty is a brilliant nationalist musician and, as someone else in the business of winning people over to our cause, I know just what a potent message there is in his songs. Great stuff Colin, well done.
Aw, Colin, you're my bestest mate in all the world, you are.
So what's going on here? Auty's mate Robertson gets expelled for subversion amid the usual hyena cackling of the Griffin groupies but the main man himself is all right?
It smells fishier than Lowestoft quay.
Unless Wingfield is putting himself up for the bullet (unlikely) we reckon the word's gone out from on high to pull Colin back into the fold before he does some real damage, and Wingfield's doing his insincere bit.
It's called Divide and Rule. Last year Griffin pulled the same stunt after Christian Jackson's hamstrung leadership bid went down to rigged defeat, expelling main backer Mike Easter but leaving Jackson well alone.
The signal is easy to read - Nick daren't pick off the name who opposes him, so he'll go for the backroom boys, sending the message loud and clear to the entire BNP membership that if any one of them gets wonky ideas like Democracy into his head, Nick's going to stick that head on a pike.
It's the coward's way of doing business, and it's the only way Nick Griffin knows.
Out on the Nazi Stormfront the Griffin pack are in full cry over Robertson's expulsion, and it's very noticeable that none of the Regular Griffinite Suspects has a bad word to say about Councillor Colin - just like they were all singing from the same hymn-sheet. Kick Robertson while he's down is the order of the day - "kicking while he's down" being something most of the cowardly cabal have had a lot of practice at over the years.
One of them is possible Searchlight/State plant, lesbian dating site regular and dodger of flying soft drinks Sid Williamson, the moron who squealed that the police failed to protect him from "the poofters" when the SuperChav bravely showed up at Brighton Pride expecting to hurl insults from behind a couple of rows of Sussex's Finest - the same moron who encouraged his boys to confront Antifa at a BPP conference (read: drinking session) then left his boys in the lurch and had it away on his toes when Antifa stood their ground.
Also showing up is the Green Bigot, coward extraordinaire and lumpen liar - the BNP's least active member and loudest mouth, who turns up to accuse somebody showing support for Roger Robertson of being an infiltrator.
The Bigot, who visitors will remember only joined the BNP just before Christmas, has a long history of accusing nationalist veterans of being infiltrators and Reds, and prefers to do his campaigning from behind the anonimity of a keyboard, from where he presents himself as a man with a nationalist past (lies) and who is In The Know (more lies) - which is much safer than showing your face on the streets, eh, Bigot?
If a man (even one as secretive as the Bigot) is known by his friends, then who better to judge him by than his mate, fellow armchair nationalist and paranoid sniffer out of Reds, the equally useless and cowardly Brighton Rat?
A quick look at the Bigot's barely used forum tonight turned up a thread started by the Rat, 10 BNP activists hurt in clash with police. The Rat feverishly posted an extract, "At least ten people, including a journalist and BNP activists, were injured in clashes between the law enforcers and BNP activists", and linked to the story, which in his excitement he hadn't read.
There's real BNP brains for you.
The story was actually about the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, which the Rat only belatedly discovered.
Being as stupid as they come (even in the BNP), though, the Rat smelled - a rat. "When I search for news on the BNP I get loads about the Bangladeshis boys and BNP Paribas. I think it's a conspiracy to confuse us and weaken the BNP 'brand'."
Well there you are. Of course. Naturally.
And since the Bangladesh Nationalist Party and BNP Paribas both pre-date the British National Party by many years it's quite obvious that both were set up to deliberately confuse the would-be members of a would-be BNP should a party of that name ever come into existence.
Whew! What evil machinations are worked against the BNP! Even before the party ever set up shop "the conspiracy" was ready and waiting to whack it to the tiny mind of the Brighton Rat.
So, judging a man by his mates, we judge the Green Bigot to be terminally stupid.
But that's no worse than how Nick Griffin and his mates judge the BNP membership, who can be made to believe that a completely legal leadership challenge is somehow "subversive" and that anybody involved in it is "vermin", "thieves", "liars" and "cheats".
Yup, it takes a special kind of stupidity to join today's BNP. Ask the Bigot and the Rat.
15 March 2008
Between a Rock and a hard place
It's a hard life being a White Nationalist.
There you are, quietly going about your Nazi business on Stormfront Britain when suddenly a dope-smoking BNP legal adviser with a screw loose announces he's going to expose your name, address and shoe-size to the world because - well, because you haven't recognised his greatness, or that of his infallible leader, Nick Griffin, bringer of astounding BNP successes, such as Thursday's brilliant 94 votes (out of 2346), or 4.0% of the vote in a Harrow council by-election.
As my friend and co-contributor Atreus has noted elsewhere, this has set the cat amongst the pigeons on Stormfront Britain, where the deranged Lee Barnes' latest Big Idea is viewed by its intended victims as dangerous (maybe) and treacherous (very definitely). It is, however, predictably supported by those Stormfront posters close to the BNP leadership, and by the fungal growths who infest the sections and threads looking for trouble with anybody who so much as thinks that Nick Griffin could do with a better haircut.
Among their number we count the Little and Large of Stormfront, the pompously self-regarding Green Arrow, who appears to believe that he can blog the BNP into power, and his little friend, the quarrelsome internet warrior and job-shy poseur, Brighton Rock.
These two have a great deal in common, neither of them ever having been active on behalf of the BNP in the real world, neither of them ever having attended a BNP meeting - indeed, neither of them ever actually being members of the BNP until long after they had joined Stormfront to begin attacking BNP members and other Stormfront regulars who had long records of real world activism.
The Green Arrow has been ridiculed so frequently (not least on these pages) that there is little we can add to further undermine a reputation so bumped and bruised for so frequently making contact with the ground.
Brighton Rock, though, has a good deal of form, as the racing people put it, his raison d'être appearing to be that of losing the BNP support by abusing members of the public on internet forums and of disruptively starting up or worsening existing disputes among the Stormfront brethren.
My experience of him goes back some considerable time, and is such that I have sometimes seriously wondered whether he is one of us pretending to be one of them, or if he really is the prize nincompoop he appears to be.
The Rock it was in his many guises, and with the help of his racist friends, who turned the well-used Brighton Argus forums into a battleground. The Argus forums were much loved by those who used them, and many carefully nurtured threads of years' long standing existed. Debate, if sometimes heated, was steady and covered a wide variety of subjects.
For the Rock, his sock puppets and his friends, this seemed prime territory into which to inject themselves to spread their message of hate and division, and they did so with a vengeance, the forum quickly resembling nothing more than a BNP notice-board. Objections to this, no matter how polite, were greeted with screaming abuse and attempts at character assasination not so different in style and tone from those of the Medway Madman. The forums descended into chaos as the Rock and his friends (Stormfront's Byron Boy being one of them) text-bombed threads to the point that the forums became unusable and were eventually closed by the Argus's owners.
The many, many people who passed an idle leisure hour on the Argus forums were well aware of who was disrupting their forums, and on behalf of which party. Few of them, even those who might have been receptive to the BNP's message had it been deployed in any sensible manner, had a good word to say for the party after that.
Challenged about this on Stormfront, the Rock's response was that the Argus forums "needed" to be closed down.
One thing you quickly discover about Brighton Rock is his capacity for invention and untruth, both of which are expansive - but the Rock, being jobless, has endless free-time in which to let his imagination run riot. He may take some throwaway remark and pursue it to the nth degree when he is at a loss for any reasonable or rational answer, and he can be relied upon to lie through his teeth when evidence of his past activities is presented.
It's always somebody else's fault - Brighton Rock is being set up, it's the Reds, it's Searchlight, it's Lancaster Unity, it's the man in the moon.
Stormfront posters are suffering a little of what Brighton Argus forum posters long suffered, as the workshy internet warrior runs around calling them "scumbags", deriding their characters, and generally shovelling large spadefulls of guano in their direction.
But what's this?
STOP PRESS
Even as I write it appears the Rock has had his Stormfront account disabled, along with that of the equally obnoxious Purging The Droid.
It seems that senior Stormfront moderators from other parts of Stormfront have tired of the pro-Griffin moderation of John Joy Tree (Andy Robertson) and taken temporary control of Stormfront Britain.
Have the actions of Canada-based Stormfront Ireland moderator Ein kampf, Ein sieg led to an outbreak of peace among the White Nationalist brethren?
Let's see...
Caradoc: Mu point, e,e , [Ein kampf, Ein sieg] is that because YL [Yorkshire Loyal] is a Griffinite, his using this forum to threaten an anti-Griffin blogger with black gangster violence is only removed when a clear complaint is made, no sanctions against the pro-Griffin SF poster follow, and the evidence is removed.
part of the solution: In defence of YL he has taken more attacks than most from the scum bag [Lee Barnes] that this thread was on about. Phoning his employer trying to get him sacked no wonder YL responded was else is he meant to do.I think we need to remember that it`s not only Jack Black that has been outed but posters have had there employers contacted in an attempt to have them sacked.I myself have been outed by this scum bag and he`s not a member of the BNP but he likes outing them doesn't he and where is the condemnation for this poster Types man and all the other sock puppets that he operates free will on here.
Caradoc: Yorkshire Loyal has made plenty threats of his own outside of Stormfront, towards Stormfront posters among others, as he will be able to tell you if he cares to.
vanguarduk: I'm following up to say that the two ex-BNP forum mods have confirmed that the BNP has been fed Stormfront user handles and IP addresses for years. And the BNP has also been fed user handles and IP addresses from the VNN forum, by a former mod there. I'm not sure if there's anyone on VNN admin at the moment, doing the BNP's bidding. But there could be. As for this forum, I've taken all the information that I’ve been able to draw together, and passed it to the mods for their attention.
No, looks like there's still plenty of scope for many a future Stormfront set-to there.
And the last word on the evicted Brighton Rock?
Number Five: What happened to Brighton Rock? I see his account is disabled. Did he jump or was he pushed? He certainly became more and more jittery as the evening wore on.
scooterist: Last i heard his cloths were found at the top of Beachy head with a photo of Margaret Thatcher in his jacket.
ein kampf, ein sieg: We only found out it was a picture of Margaret when we had to use a scalpel to prise the edges apart!
maximilian: I don't know you know. I think he had a thing for Denise Garside, he was always talking about her
Dux90: Wasn't that in his gold locket though?
maximilian: Yes I think you are right. And the locket was resting on a giant tattoo of Garside's face tattooed on his pigeon chest.
ein kampf, ein sieg: Then it looks as if he went as he lived! Said one thing, and his one true love was a secret!
Aww... goodbye, Brighton Rock - really, I never knew... :-)
There you are, quietly going about your Nazi business on Stormfront Britain when suddenly a dope-smoking BNP legal adviser with a screw loose announces he's going to expose your name, address and shoe-size to the world because - well, because you haven't recognised his greatness, or that of his infallible leader, Nick Griffin, bringer of astounding BNP successes, such as Thursday's brilliant 94 votes (out of 2346), or 4.0% of the vote in a Harrow council by-election.
As my friend and co-contributor Atreus has noted elsewhere, this has set the cat amongst the pigeons on Stormfront Britain, where the deranged Lee Barnes' latest Big Idea is viewed by its intended victims as dangerous (maybe) and treacherous (very definitely). It is, however, predictably supported by those Stormfront posters close to the BNP leadership, and by the fungal growths who infest the sections and threads looking for trouble with anybody who so much as thinks that Nick Griffin could do with a better haircut.
Among their number we count the Little and Large of Stormfront, the pompously self-regarding Green Arrow, who appears to believe that he can blog the BNP into power, and his little friend, the quarrelsome internet warrior and job-shy poseur, Brighton Rock.
These two have a great deal in common, neither of them ever having been active on behalf of the BNP in the real world, neither of them ever having attended a BNP meeting - indeed, neither of them ever actually being members of the BNP until long after they had joined Stormfront to begin attacking BNP members and other Stormfront regulars who had long records of real world activism.
The Green Arrow has been ridiculed so frequently (not least on these pages) that there is little we can add to further undermine a reputation so bumped and bruised for so frequently making contact with the ground.
Brighton Rock, though, has a good deal of form, as the racing people put it, his raison d'être appearing to be that of losing the BNP support by abusing members of the public on internet forums and of disruptively starting up or worsening existing disputes among the Stormfront brethren.
My experience of him goes back some considerable time, and is such that I have sometimes seriously wondered whether he is one of us pretending to be one of them, or if he really is the prize nincompoop he appears to be.
The Rock it was in his many guises, and with the help of his racist friends, who turned the well-used Brighton Argus forums into a battleground. The Argus forums were much loved by those who used them, and many carefully nurtured threads of years' long standing existed. Debate, if sometimes heated, was steady and covered a wide variety of subjects.
For the Rock, his sock puppets and his friends, this seemed prime territory into which to inject themselves to spread their message of hate and division, and they did so with a vengeance, the forum quickly resembling nothing more than a BNP notice-board. Objections to this, no matter how polite, were greeted with screaming abuse and attempts at character assasination not so different in style and tone from those of the Medway Madman. The forums descended into chaos as the Rock and his friends (Stormfront's Byron Boy being one of them) text-bombed threads to the point that the forums became unusable and were eventually closed by the Argus's owners.
The many, many people who passed an idle leisure hour on the Argus forums were well aware of who was disrupting their forums, and on behalf of which party. Few of them, even those who might have been receptive to the BNP's message had it been deployed in any sensible manner, had a good word to say for the party after that.
Challenged about this on Stormfront, the Rock's response was that the Argus forums "needed" to be closed down.
One thing you quickly discover about Brighton Rock is his capacity for invention and untruth, both of which are expansive - but the Rock, being jobless, has endless free-time in which to let his imagination run riot. He may take some throwaway remark and pursue it to the nth degree when he is at a loss for any reasonable or rational answer, and he can be relied upon to lie through his teeth when evidence of his past activities is presented.
It's always somebody else's fault - Brighton Rock is being set up, it's the Reds, it's Searchlight, it's Lancaster Unity, it's the man in the moon.
Stormfront posters are suffering a little of what Brighton Argus forum posters long suffered, as the workshy internet warrior runs around calling them "scumbags", deriding their characters, and generally shovelling large spadefulls of guano in their direction.
But what's this?
STOP PRESS
Even as I write it appears the Rock has had his Stormfront account disabled, along with that of the equally obnoxious Purging The Droid.
It seems that senior Stormfront moderators from other parts of Stormfront have tired of the pro-Griffin moderation of John Joy Tree (Andy Robertson) and taken temporary control of Stormfront Britain.
Have the actions of Canada-based Stormfront Ireland moderator Ein kampf, Ein sieg led to an outbreak of peace among the White Nationalist brethren?
Let's see...
Caradoc: Mu point, e,e , [Ein kampf, Ein sieg] is that because YL [Yorkshire Loyal] is a Griffinite, his using this forum to threaten an anti-Griffin blogger with black gangster violence is only removed when a clear complaint is made, no sanctions against the pro-Griffin SF poster follow, and the evidence is removed.
part of the solution: In defence of YL he has taken more attacks than most from the scum bag [Lee Barnes] that this thread was on about. Phoning his employer trying to get him sacked no wonder YL responded was else is he meant to do.I think we need to remember that it`s not only Jack Black that has been outed but posters have had there employers contacted in an attempt to have them sacked.I myself have been outed by this scum bag and he`s not a member of the BNP but he likes outing them doesn't he and where is the condemnation for this poster Types man and all the other sock puppets that he operates free will on here.
Caradoc: Yorkshire Loyal has made plenty threats of his own outside of Stormfront, towards Stormfront posters among others, as he will be able to tell you if he cares to.
vanguarduk: I'm following up to say that the two ex-BNP forum mods have confirmed that the BNP has been fed Stormfront user handles and IP addresses for years. And the BNP has also been fed user handles and IP addresses from the VNN forum, by a former mod there. I'm not sure if there's anyone on VNN admin at the moment, doing the BNP's bidding. But there could be. As for this forum, I've taken all the information that I’ve been able to draw together, and passed it to the mods for their attention.
No, looks like there's still plenty of scope for many a future Stormfront set-to there.
And the last word on the evicted Brighton Rock?
Number Five: What happened to Brighton Rock? I see his account is disabled. Did he jump or was he pushed? He certainly became more and more jittery as the evening wore on.
scooterist: Last i heard his cloths were found at the top of Beachy head with a photo of Margaret Thatcher in his jacket.
ein kampf, ein sieg: We only found out it was a picture of Margaret when we had to use a scalpel to prise the edges apart!
maximilian: I don't know you know. I think he had a thing for Denise Garside, he was always talking about her
Dux90: Wasn't that in his gold locket though?
maximilian: Yes I think you are right. And the locket was resting on a giant tattoo of Garside's face tattooed on his pigeon chest.
ein kampf, ein sieg: Then it looks as if he went as he lived! Said one thing, and his one true love was a secret!
Aww... goodbye, Brighton Rock - really, I never knew... :-)
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